change  of  President  to  Megawati  and  then  to 
President  Susilo  Bambang Yudhoyono  the Ministry 
was maintained, even though its function was not yet 
real. Attention to the function of this ministry is also 
not  significant  as  evidenced  by  the  small  facilities 
including offices at the beginning.
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However,  this  change,  from  several  studies  and 
interviews,  has  not  changed  much  marine  policy. 
Indonesian  sea  defence,  in  general,  was  also  not 
developed because defence design remained normal 
with an emphasis on the  superiority of the Army in 
strategic planning (Marzuki, 2018). In one interview, 
it  was  also  said  that  the  sea  was  still  not  seriously 
protected  because  the  Navy's  ability  was  not 
significantly  improved  and  there  was  no  specific 
strategy originating from the sea.
6
  
Similarly,  Arif  and  Kurniawan  (2017)  say  that 
defence design that sees domestic threats as the main 
threat  has  become  a  strategic  culture  that 
overshadows  the  Navy's  reluctance  to  play  a 
prominent  role  in  defending  Indonesia's  sea  from 
external  threats.  Various  resource  persons  such  as 
Daniel and a Naval Officer
7
 showed that attention to 
the  sea  was  still  far  away.  The  paradigm  in  the 
community has not changed much. They still see land 
as a starting point for thinking and even consider the 
sea to be just an extension of the land, such as in the 
thought of building bridges between islands.
8
  
In the survey  conducted by CSIS  between April 
and  May  2013,  the  definition  of  security  was  still 
dominated by threats to national security. The study 
shows that 34 per cent of respondents, for example, 
consider terrorism a threat and 19 per cent consider 
border  incursion  as  a  threat.  Also,  other  threats 
include foreign aggression and communism are also 
included  in the  perception  of  threats  to  the  country. 
The  only  non-traditional  security  issue  that  gets 
attention is climate change, which is 1 per cent. 
Although  the  GMF  has  been  declared,  the 
dominance  of  the  view  is  also  still  on  seeing 
Indonesia's security from the security aspect against 
the  threat  of  Indonesian  sovereignty.  As  said  by 
Syailendra  (2017),  in  dealing  with  China,  the  main 
actors in Indonesia's policymaking, see the threat as a 
threat to the integrity and sovereignty of the Republic 
of Indonesia. President Jokowi, for example, ensured 
5
 Speech of Mr. Havas Oegroseno, Indonesia Deputy 
Minister of Marine Affairs and Fisheries, at The Asia 
Foundation, Washington DC, Apr 1, 2016.  
6
 Anonymous Interview with a Navy Commander, Jakarta, 
May 24, 2018 
7
 Anonymous Interview with a Navy Commander, Jakarta, 
May 24, 2018 
that  China  would  not  interfere  with  Indonesia's 
sovereignty  by  supporting  efforts  to  arrest  Chinese 
ships. Meanwhile, the Navy wants an increase in the 
budget  to  protect  the  Indonesian  sea  area.  The 
Ministry of Foreign Affairs in its capacity also tries 
to  defend  the  territory  of  Indonesia's  sovereignty 
through  diplomacy  and  engagement  with  China.  In 
this context, only the Ministry of Marine Affairs and 
Fisheries is concerned about non-traditional security 
aspects, especially for managing marine resources as 
part of food security for Indonesia.
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4  DISCUSSION 
The  findings  above  show  that  the  debate  about 
Indonesia's maritime world is still dominated by and 
defined in term of military security threats. Of course, 
the discussion is significant  for Indonesia's vast  sea 
area. However, more than that, concepts such as the 
Wawasan Nusantara that combine both land and sea 
dimensions turned out to be developing more towards 
land heavy. The defence strategy remains designed to 
overcome internal security problems such as terrorists 
and  separatists  and  ideological  threats  such  as 
communists  and  radical  Islamic  groups.  In  other 
words, the concepts of archipelagic state and 
Wawasan Nusantara  does  not  bring  changes  to 
security strategies, especially in dealing with external 
enemies that threaten Indonesia's marine sovereignty. 
Our findings show that Indonesia has indeed won 
its  sovereignty  over  the  sea  at  UNCLOS.  In  the 
context of the international order, this is a significant 
contribution. As stated by Oegroseno (2009), this is 
Indonesia's contribution to the world or in Acharya's 
terms,  Indonesia  contributes  to  "norm  subsidiarity" 
(Acharya,  2011).  This  perspective  also  shows  that 
third world countries like Indonesia are active agents 
in understanding international concepts introduced by 
Western countries. Indonesia adjusts the sovereignty 
aspect with its geographical needs and strives to get it 
in the world. With UNCLOS, Indonesia invites 
neighbours to comply with international regulations. 
According to Oegroseno (2009), if we do not refer to 
this rule,  how we can  relate well in  modern society 
8
 Speech of Muhammad Daniel on Workshop of Global 
Maritime Fulcrum, University of Jember, 4 June 2018. 
9
 Speech of Minister of Marine Affairs and Fisheries of the 
Republic of Indonesia, Ms. Susi Pudjiastuti at the RSIS 
Distinguished Public Lecture 27 August 2015.